It’s very funny how the millennial RWers also occupy the public idea of the new right. I think when the Zoomie right reaches an age where we inhabit the spaces the Millenials are in right now, the broad political space will be shocked and find it difficult to wrestle with
Yes, I think this is definitely true. Most normies don't understand the first thing about inner RW politics. I had a professor talk about The Proud Boys as "one of the most influential and dangerous extremist groups in America" which is hilariously out of touch if you follow RW politics, since they have been jumped a number of times and have consistently propagated the same CivNat wholesome gay rhetoric as every other mainstream NeoCon org.
It's going to be very jarring to them once they realize that millennials (who represent the known element) are becoming increasingly uncommon in the RW and are losing prestige in favor of more radical Gen Zers.
"one of the most influential and dangerous extremist groups in America" had me audibly giggle. Just another example of modern society being organized under a fundamentally liberal moral framework (you should read my first essay mang)
Jej. Most of the time when I tag people doe, I'm just including them in the post for my readers to know who I'm talking about in case they aren't aware of the iFunny-Substack connections or something.
I've also noticed how many supposed based right-wingers' religious attitudes are stuck in the early 2010's when the atheism thing was at its height. Many of them still sound like edgy redditors quoting Richard Dawkins at their boomer parents with a fedora on. Embarrassing.
Millennials were the generation where liberal indoctrination was strongest imo. They grew up in a particular phase where hating religion and conservatism was hip and cool and edgy and had become the dominant culture, but hadn't yet overreached into wokeshit. So a lot of them have a real hard time shaking that big pozload they took during their developmental years.
^^This. The religious choice for millennials was between limp denominations led by spineless boomer clergy (RC in the heyday of the sex scandals, totally cucked mainline prots, or embarrassingly goofy evangelicals) or new atheism. The internet hadn't yet opened up orthodoxy or tradcaths or genuine paganism to the masses. With that said, I've always viewed the guys who fell for new atheism with suspicion.
It is odd seeing how bland and and limp the average millennial RWer is. I find it hard to understand how they can act the way they do and not feel humiliated, especially when it comes to degeneracy and disdain for the poor.
On the topic of Millenial RWers only being about 1/10 as smart as they think their ivy league education makes them, I've noticed all of them try to use very big words, use them poorly, and also consistently make small but grating spelling or grammar mistakes. Strangely, the only spelling or grammar mistakes I see on iFunniers posts are intentional (besides earendil). Wat Means?
Unfortunately, I feel like I fall under a few of the “Millennial RWer” categories. My family isn’t extraordinarily well off, but definitely upper middle class and certainly the top bracket of where I live. I don’t go to an Ivy League, but I do go to a school that I consider top tier. I am proud of my intelligence and heritage (prominent New England family). I’m often too elitist and have to check myself. I joined in briefly with the end of the New Atheist movement.
However, in every other way I align with the Gen-Zers. My true political introduction was watching Sargon. I had a brief stint where I watched Thuderf00t creationist-owned compilations, but I never had any vitriol toward a Christianity and quickly concluded that a religious society was better than an irreligious one. I’m not sure I can ever be truly religious, but through simple deduction I can conclude there is a monad (effects have causes, therefore the effect that is the universe must have a cause I.E. God), and I’m not yet sure what to do with that. Despite having mostly Nietzschean beliefs, I am still deeply sympathetic to Christianity.
When it comes to elitism, I grew up in a rural farm town and worked on a ranch. Average people are average. They do what it takes to get by. Even considering dysgenics and the ongoing IQ drop, these people aren’t evil for existing. We shouldn’t hate them or look down on them, their failure is our failure.
I do believe that there should be a separation between the elite and not. It’s very important for society to have a stable upper class that isn’t constantly fluctuating and out for itself rather than the wider nation. However, there are limits to this. The elite shouldn’t be so separated that they don’t understand the struggles of the average man, nor become decadent out of ease. What I respect most about the Victorian English aristocracy is that they went out of their way to be with their men. The heir to the throne was always a soldier first. Aristocrats would stay with and speak to their men. They could walk into a pub anywhere and strike up a conversation with anyone. Yet, they still elevated themselves. They never ducked or ran in battle, they never showed fear of the enemy. The English aristocrat was simultaneously an average man yet a breed different, and that allowed him to motivate his men to do things unthinkable.
Degeneracy is degenerate, no matter who does it. Nuff’ said. Even if danger and risk-taking are desirable traits in the elite, that should be focused toward business ventures and military expeditions, not taking cocaine and banging hookers in Las Vegas (almost wrote New Vegas out of habit lol).
Anyways, hope this blogpost finds you well during the ongoing banocaust on iFunny. Keep your spirits up and they will never break you.
I agree with elitism myself, and generally find myself flipping between disdain for the poor particularly out of disgust for their living conditions, and for my above avg intellect and being humbled by my own shortcomings and their hospitality. I thought I'd hate the third world more but honestly visiting it, though it stinks and it's filthy, I'm really impressed that people are kinder to you on the street than in western countries. Then again I have only visited Hindu Indonesia, and not targets of our ire like India, Mexico, or China, so it stands that my opinions will develop when meeting different peoples, confirming and refuting my ethnic grudges/bias. Of course though on ethnopolitics, never compromise. But travel does give you great insight.
Most of the RW trad/religious types I’ve interacted with are Millennials.
But then again, I’m new to Substack. To be honest I was kind of surprised a) at how relatively liberal this platform is; b) how lax people here are with the RW labels; c) how much the discourse around certain obvious truths is toned down by “thought leaders”, but I digress. Walt Bismarck is unmistakably a liberal, and I’ll leave it at that.
Substack in general seems to mostly be Millennials so I imagine it skews the data a bit, so to speak.
I'm writing this from the perspective of an iFunnier, which means I'm coming from years of observing and participating in a bunch of religious debates between pagan and Christian Gen Zers.
There are a few oldhead ChristNats on here it seems, but they are far outnumber by the Walt/Arcto/Hanania types who are pretty outwardly atheist and generally harbor some level or resentment for religion.
Remember that the traditional Catholics and others - if Millennials - are in prime working and childbearing years. In late 30's, I'm about to have my 6th child and my eldest is 7 (twins in there). I work for myself, so I have more time than most to make this work, and I can't get fired for getting doxxed. Most people don't have either of those luxuries, so it narrows the field a bit.
All the outspoken ones I know are hyper focused on their missions, and have no time for this. My mission happens to include it, so I make it work.
Tbh I used to be with tradcaths buy after being mistreated and realizing I was never following or really acting correctly given the commandments of my self-proclaimed faith, and I had no genuine interest to outside internet funsies and owning the libtards, I went apostate and left. I couldn't continue being a terrible representative for my faith or lying to myself that I was an actual righteous zealot, a true believer, and not an internet sperg. Underneath it all i didn't follow or believe the tenets of basic Christianity, let alone the responsibilities entailed of actual Catholicism. During my crisis of faith I didn't find any guidance or help for questioning, but ridicule, it was a very embittering experience. Ever since I've not really held any solid religious beliefs since I know I'd just be lying and I'd hate to indulge that whole part of my ego. If I were to take on religion, I would like it to be honest with myself about it. Most online zealots do not realize how much of an idiot they make of themselves, or the mockery they make of their faith, some haphazardly putting out the excuse all is forgiven fighting in the name of the lord, as was the decree of the papacy in the crusades. Really it's all using the lords name in vain. Nietzsche for me spurred this profound self-reflection and realization, but ultimately since I've been left with nothing as I'm too hesitant after burning myself, and of screwing with affairs spiritual or supernatural, to really get with anything. I don't remember who said it here on substack, but it reminds me of that intangible omnipresent nihilism that underlines society today, where no one can believe anything anymore, no one trusts eachother, or any institution. People cannot sincerely believe anymore so they cover it with irony out of fear of the genuine. It's a disgusting and sorry state really.
I think we are all too focused on wanting and desiring fraternity and ritual with our brethren. This seems to be a major motivator for turning young RW men to religion. We desire fraternity and community, wholesome morality found with brethren and kindred.
This is fine and dandy but religion is ultimately about theophany and hierophany. We have neglected our relationship with the divine, and in doing so have made it hard to connect with each other in regular fraternity.
Elitism is a comfy blanket for people who got joked with by blue-collar guys and took it way too seriously. They retreat into elitism as a way to feel special, write about how cool they are, and feel above the people that mocked them. You’ll notice that those who are really successful don’t verbalize how much better than everyone else they are. They’re capable of talking to basically everyone they meet, and gaining their favor. As you say, elitism is the philosophy of a sheltered Brahmin!
I haven’t interacted with these types that much, why do you think they call themselves rw? Is it really just the aesthetic of appearing superior/different
I think so yeah. Walt Bismarck is pretty archetypal of this. At first glance he seems like he could be RW. Not necessarily conservative or trad, but a progressive RWer sort of like the NSDAP was in Germany during its rise to power. Not so much concerned with preserving tradition as it was keeping it alive. Nothing wrong with that, and I myself would probably align more with this idea than a typical trad.
But then, once you read he 'Stacks, many of his articles use liberal dogwhistles that you only know about via regular interaction with upper-class (White/Jewish) liberals. And you only think these things are positive if your are sympathetic to their ideas. For example, Walt always goes on to talk about the merits of "High openness" which is very silly. As Sectionalism described it, "High openness" is Walt's golden god. Beyond that, he has takes that are much more suited towards a liberal than a true RWer, like his open engagement with and encouragement of blatant hedonism, consistently failing to align with White people on key racial issues, and even advocating for the importation of so-called "high caste Indians" as a way of saving America politically and financially.
I think, more than anything else, he is retracing the same steps he made years ago where he got hopped up on his own fumes and wants to be a leader in the RW, just because he wants to be a leader. He talked about this in one of his first posts on Substack and basically said as much, but it's quite funny that he's doing it again without realizing.
One of the worst habits I’ve developed from iFunny is double tapping to like. I’d find myself doing it halfway through textposts when I agree with something I read, and I was doing it over and over while reading this post. Can’t wait for GenZ RWers to take the stage soon!
Yeah one of the most annoying aspects of gen x and millenial Right wingers is that they are usually devoid of morality and openly engage in degenerate behavior and are honestly part of the "let people enjoy things" crowd.
I really don't know why it was tweaking. It was like it refreshed the page every 25ish seconds or so, which made it really annoying to type.
I normally write an article in a word document ahead of time, proofread it, sleep on it, then copy paste when the time is right.
Same thing has been happening to me.
It’s very funny how the millennial RWers also occupy the public idea of the new right. I think when the Zoomie right reaches an age where we inhabit the spaces the Millenials are in right now, the broad political space will be shocked and find it difficult to wrestle with
Yes, I think this is definitely true. Most normies don't understand the first thing about inner RW politics. I had a professor talk about The Proud Boys as "one of the most influential and dangerous extremist groups in America" which is hilariously out of touch if you follow RW politics, since they have been jumped a number of times and have consistently propagated the same CivNat wholesome gay rhetoric as every other mainstream NeoCon org.
It's going to be very jarring to them once they realize that millennials (who represent the known element) are becoming increasingly uncommon in the RW and are losing prestige in favor of more radical Gen Zers.
"one of the most influential and dangerous extremist groups in America" had me audibly giggle. Just another example of modern society being organized under a fundamentally liberal moral framework (you should read my first essay mang)
Btw that prof was the dean of the political science department which just makes it funnier
Will read in a bit
“the infamous hacker known as 4chan”
Real RWers uhhhhh put cop flags on their lofted trucks and uhhhhhh lgb drop the t
So true. Me and my sexy Latina wife were just talking about this exact thing.
I think I'm going to vomit.
Feel like ifunniers have been the only group that Ive connected with that grew up during the death of the middle class
It appears I have been tagged. Despite not reading a single word of this article I shall restack with impunity!
Jej. Most of the time when I tag people doe, I'm just including them in the post for my readers to know who I'm talking about in case they aren't aware of the iFunny-Substack connections or something.
I've also noticed how many supposed based right-wingers' religious attitudes are stuck in the early 2010's when the atheism thing was at its height. Many of them still sound like edgy redditors quoting Richard Dawkins at their boomer parents with a fedora on. Embarrassing.
Why are millennials so gay and stupid, anyway? What factors could have led them to become a generation of obsessed shitskin fnf pedo niggers?
Millennials were the generation where liberal indoctrination was strongest imo. They grew up in a particular phase where hating religion and conservatism was hip and cool and edgy and had become the dominant culture, but hadn't yet overreached into wokeshit. So a lot of them have a real hard time shaking that big pozload they took during their developmental years.
^^This. The religious choice for millennials was between limp denominations led by spineless boomer clergy (RC in the heyday of the sex scandals, totally cucked mainline prots, or embarrassingly goofy evangelicals) or new atheism. The internet hadn't yet opened up orthodoxy or tradcaths or genuine paganism to the masses. With that said, I've always viewed the guys who fell for new atheism with suspicion.
By and large, they are the children of Boomers.
It is odd seeing how bland and and limp the average millennial RWer is. I find it hard to understand how they can act the way they do and not feel humiliated, especially when it comes to degeneracy and disdain for the poor.
On the topic of Millenial RWers only being about 1/10 as smart as they think their ivy league education makes them, I've noticed all of them try to use very big words, use them poorly, and also consistently make small but grating spelling or grammar mistakes. Strangely, the only spelling or grammar mistakes I see on iFunniers posts are intentional (besides earendil). Wat Means?
Unfortunately, I feel like I fall under a few of the “Millennial RWer” categories. My family isn’t extraordinarily well off, but definitely upper middle class and certainly the top bracket of where I live. I don’t go to an Ivy League, but I do go to a school that I consider top tier. I am proud of my intelligence and heritage (prominent New England family). I’m often too elitist and have to check myself. I joined in briefly with the end of the New Atheist movement.
However, in every other way I align with the Gen-Zers. My true political introduction was watching Sargon. I had a brief stint where I watched Thuderf00t creationist-owned compilations, but I never had any vitriol toward a Christianity and quickly concluded that a religious society was better than an irreligious one. I’m not sure I can ever be truly religious, but through simple deduction I can conclude there is a monad (effects have causes, therefore the effect that is the universe must have a cause I.E. God), and I’m not yet sure what to do with that. Despite having mostly Nietzschean beliefs, I am still deeply sympathetic to Christianity.
When it comes to elitism, I grew up in a rural farm town and worked on a ranch. Average people are average. They do what it takes to get by. Even considering dysgenics and the ongoing IQ drop, these people aren’t evil for existing. We shouldn’t hate them or look down on them, their failure is our failure.
I do believe that there should be a separation between the elite and not. It’s very important for society to have a stable upper class that isn’t constantly fluctuating and out for itself rather than the wider nation. However, there are limits to this. The elite shouldn’t be so separated that they don’t understand the struggles of the average man, nor become decadent out of ease. What I respect most about the Victorian English aristocracy is that they went out of their way to be with their men. The heir to the throne was always a soldier first. Aristocrats would stay with and speak to their men. They could walk into a pub anywhere and strike up a conversation with anyone. Yet, they still elevated themselves. They never ducked or ran in battle, they never showed fear of the enemy. The English aristocrat was simultaneously an average man yet a breed different, and that allowed him to motivate his men to do things unthinkable.
Degeneracy is degenerate, no matter who does it. Nuff’ said. Even if danger and risk-taking are desirable traits in the elite, that should be focused toward business ventures and military expeditions, not taking cocaine and banging hookers in Las Vegas (almost wrote New Vegas out of habit lol).
Anyways, hope this blogpost finds you well during the ongoing banocaust on iFunny. Keep your spirits up and they will never break you.
I agree with elitism myself, and generally find myself flipping between disdain for the poor particularly out of disgust for their living conditions, and for my above avg intellect and being humbled by my own shortcomings and their hospitality. I thought I'd hate the third world more but honestly visiting it, though it stinks and it's filthy, I'm really impressed that people are kinder to you on the street than in western countries. Then again I have only visited Hindu Indonesia, and not targets of our ire like India, Mexico, or China, so it stands that my opinions will develop when meeting different peoples, confirming and refuting my ethnic grudges/bias. Of course though on ethnopolitics, never compromise. But travel does give you great insight.
Most of the RW trad/religious types I’ve interacted with are Millennials.
But then again, I’m new to Substack. To be honest I was kind of surprised a) at how relatively liberal this platform is; b) how lax people here are with the RW labels; c) how much the discourse around certain obvious truths is toned down by “thought leaders”, but I digress. Walt Bismarck is unmistakably a liberal, and I’ll leave it at that.
Substack in general seems to mostly be Millennials so I imagine it skews the data a bit, so to speak.
I'm writing this from the perspective of an iFunnier, which means I'm coming from years of observing and participating in a bunch of religious debates between pagan and Christian Gen Zers.
There are a few oldhead ChristNats on here it seems, but they are far outnumber by the Walt/Arcto/Hanania types who are pretty outwardly atheist and generally harbor some level or resentment for religion.
Remember that the traditional Catholics and others - if Millennials - are in prime working and childbearing years. In late 30's, I'm about to have my 6th child and my eldest is 7 (twins in there). I work for myself, so I have more time than most to make this work, and I can't get fired for getting doxxed. Most people don't have either of those luxuries, so it narrows the field a bit.
All the outspoken ones I know are hyper focused on their missions, and have no time for this. My mission happens to include it, so I make it work.
Tbh I used to be with tradcaths buy after being mistreated and realizing I was never following or really acting correctly given the commandments of my self-proclaimed faith, and I had no genuine interest to outside internet funsies and owning the libtards, I went apostate and left. I couldn't continue being a terrible representative for my faith or lying to myself that I was an actual righteous zealot, a true believer, and not an internet sperg. Underneath it all i didn't follow or believe the tenets of basic Christianity, let alone the responsibilities entailed of actual Catholicism. During my crisis of faith I didn't find any guidance or help for questioning, but ridicule, it was a very embittering experience. Ever since I've not really held any solid religious beliefs since I know I'd just be lying and I'd hate to indulge that whole part of my ego. If I were to take on religion, I would like it to be honest with myself about it. Most online zealots do not realize how much of an idiot they make of themselves, or the mockery they make of their faith, some haphazardly putting out the excuse all is forgiven fighting in the name of the lord, as was the decree of the papacy in the crusades. Really it's all using the lords name in vain. Nietzsche for me spurred this profound self-reflection and realization, but ultimately since I've been left with nothing as I'm too hesitant after burning myself, and of screwing with affairs spiritual or supernatural, to really get with anything. I don't remember who said it here on substack, but it reminds me of that intangible omnipresent nihilism that underlines society today, where no one can believe anything anymore, no one trusts eachother, or any institution. People cannot sincerely believe anymore so they cover it with irony out of fear of the genuine. It's a disgusting and sorry state really.
I think we are all too focused on wanting and desiring fraternity and ritual with our brethren. This seems to be a major motivator for turning young RW men to religion. We desire fraternity and community, wholesome morality found with brethren and kindred.
This is fine and dandy but religion is ultimately about theophany and hierophany. We have neglected our relationship with the divine, and in doing so have made it hard to connect with each other in regular fraternity.
This is just my opinion though
Elitism is a comfy blanket for people who got joked with by blue-collar guys and took it way too seriously. They retreat into elitism as a way to feel special, write about how cool they are, and feel above the people that mocked them. You’ll notice that those who are really successful don’t verbalize how much better than everyone else they are. They’re capable of talking to basically everyone they meet, and gaining their favor. As you say, elitism is the philosophy of a sheltered Brahmin!
I haven’t interacted with these types that much, why do you think they call themselves rw? Is it really just the aesthetic of appearing superior/different
I think so yeah. Walt Bismarck is pretty archetypal of this. At first glance he seems like he could be RW. Not necessarily conservative or trad, but a progressive RWer sort of like the NSDAP was in Germany during its rise to power. Not so much concerned with preserving tradition as it was keeping it alive. Nothing wrong with that, and I myself would probably align more with this idea than a typical trad.
But then, once you read he 'Stacks, many of his articles use liberal dogwhistles that you only know about via regular interaction with upper-class (White/Jewish) liberals. And you only think these things are positive if your are sympathetic to their ideas. For example, Walt always goes on to talk about the merits of "High openness" which is very silly. As Sectionalism described it, "High openness" is Walt's golden god. Beyond that, he has takes that are much more suited towards a liberal than a true RWer, like his open engagement with and encouragement of blatant hedonism, consistently failing to align with White people on key racial issues, and even advocating for the importation of so-called "high caste Indians" as a way of saving America politically and financially.
I think, more than anything else, he is retracing the same steps he made years ago where he got hopped up on his own fumes and wants to be a leader in the RW, just because he wants to be a leader. He talked about this in one of his first posts on Substack and basically said as much, but it's quite funny that he's doing it again without realizing.
One of the worst habits I’ve developed from iFunny is double tapping to like. I’d find myself doing it halfway through textposts when I agree with something I read, and I was doing it over and over while reading this post. Can’t wait for GenZ RWers to take the stage soon!
Yeah one of the most annoying aspects of gen x and millenial Right wingers is that they are usually devoid of morality and openly engage in degenerate behavior and are honestly part of the "let people enjoy things" crowd.